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  Hans Pedersen Dambo

  25 June 2012 at 03:37 | #

  Nice to see that the database is back on line again. But I think there should be 137 marches. I miss Circus March.
  Another thing I miss very much since several years is your online concerts that I really appreciated as there is some distance between Sweden and Dallas making it quite difficult for me to attend to your concerts in Dallas.
  As chairman of the Swedish Sousa Society I really find your website very valuable!

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  David Lovrien

  25 June 2012 at 21:21 | #

  Hello Hans - I'm going by the standard in Bierley's book so I don't count marches that were part of suites (i.e., Easter Monday on the White House Lawn) or stage productions (i.e., Circus March). But this is an interesting subject and someone should write an article about it!

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  Hans Pedersen Dambo

  26 June 2012 at 00:47 | #

  Hello David,
  by the standard in which of Bierley's books?
  In both "A Descriptive Catalog... and "The Works of John Philip Sousa Bierley describe Circus March in the chapter "Marches". That´s why I miss "Circus March" but not "Easter Monday".
  Concerning Circus March Bierley says that it "was obviously written for a stage production but which one may never be known".

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    David Lovrien

    27 June 2012 at 10:18 | #

    Bierley begins his Marches section with "Sousa wrote 136 marches", even though he lists the Circus March (which has no date or other info).

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      Hans Pedersen Dambo

      27 June 2012 at 13:09 | #

      Of course Bierley said "136" marches as his books were published in the 1970's and 1980's long before "Library of Congress" was recognized as a march. I would guess that Bierley today might accept mentioning 137 Sousa marches. We know for sure that Bierley included Circus march in the number of 136 marches. Without claiming to be an expert I dare say that the Circus March is onlly known and existing as a stand alone march that is only supposed to be included in another work that is unknown.
      Therefore I am still claiming that Circus March ought to be included in the list of Susa marches.
      I hope that you can see in the thread above that you are contradicting yourself saying that you follow Bierley's standard when yoy in fact don't follow it when your reason not to list Cicus March is that it is supposed to be part of a stage production while Bierley lists it mentioning that some marches are not listed in order to avoid double listing.
      He is still listing Circus March and you are not. I can't get my brain to understand in what way you are following Bierley's standard.
      Can't you just admit that you made a mistake not listing Circus March or else give as a trustworthy explanation why not listing it.
      
      It would also be interesting to hear why El Capitan is listed as a march?
      
      I'm not trying to be mean but am sicerely interested in this disussion that eg could include famous opera marches by Verdi, Donizetti and others. Or, can Strauss waltzes be listed as waltzes if they are included in a ballets or operettas?
      
      Should we try to find a new way of listing by mentioning the context of the single piece like "The Thunderer March, Circus March from an unknown stageproduction, El Capitan March from the operetta El Capitan, The Washigton Post etc, etc ?
      
      It would really be nice to hear opinions from other persons too :-)
      
      Kindly
      /Hans

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  Hans Pedersen Dambo

  11 September 2012 at 03:18 | #

  I find it very sad that you still haven´t replied to my comments of June 27.
  As rhe reason hadly can depend on an owerflow of participiants in the blog
  I cannot recommend my friends to visit this blog...
  or should I just to show them how it is managed?
  Hans

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  David Lovrien

  12 September 2012 at 01:58 | #

  I found your argument convincing and I will probably take your advice when time allows. I have tried to create a site that allows discussion and participation but as you can see it doesn't get a lot of comments despite the large number of visitors.

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  Hans Pedersen Dambo

  12 September 2012 at 02:16 | #

  Thank you, David!
  
  I'm very glad to hear that.

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